This is something that you apparently don't get
Ummm yeah - one of many things that Obves "doesn't get"
You know what else Obves doesn't get? His medication.
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Are they really that bad???
by anonymous4 inhad a good look into the doctrine, beliefs and practices of jws and to be honest, i don't really see anything wrong with it at all.. it's biblical and i've had such an eye opener the past year or so reading some of their books and magazines .
is there really any real reasons why i shouldn't want to get involved further?
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Evolution in a Theological context
by PSacramento inin human evolution in theological context, physicist, theologian, and minister george murphy offers a theological look at human evolution and the implications it has for christianity.. .
http://biologos.org/uploads/projects/murphy_scholarly_essay.pdf.
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just n from bethel
But Cofty - that's not what her hallucinated sidekick (Jehiccup MiCaCa) tells her - so either way you're wrong. Why? her little invisible buddy says so - so there.
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glad you liked it dear mouthy. Merry Xmas
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Evolution in a Theological context
by PSacramento inin human evolution in theological context, physicist, theologian, and minister george murphy offers a theological look at human evolution and the implications it has for christianity.. .
http://biologos.org/uploads/projects/murphy_scholarly_essay.pdf.
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just n from bethel
Aguest - I'm printing out your post and framing it. Then when my son reaches the 4th grade, I'm going to send it with him to his science class. The lecture for the class on that day will be: KIDS, THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULDN'T DO DRUGS.
Actually, if you wouldn't mind, I'd like to request you make your post into some kind of mini-lecture, and if possible you could come to show and tell.
I think it will go something like this:
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Did you play tackle football as a good little JW?
by JRK inin my town we did.
each congregation had its own "pick up" team.
we would get together and play on a chosen sunday after the meetings.
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Good thread.
Tackle football was taboo off and on throughout the 80s and 90s in the US- then in the late 90s something seemed to happen in the congregations. Nobody really did anything sports-wise with their children. Every once in a while - you'd have a few put a game together - but nothing like the fun JW days of the 80s and early 90s. I remember when every other local need talk was about playing too competitively. There were smiles and snickers by a lot - and usually a wink or two by the elders participating themselves. Tackling would subside for a few weekends then - it would pick back up again until brother brags-he-is-good-as-a-pro gets his collar bone broken by brother really-should-play-on-varsity.
But the point is - we really would do things together as families. A lot of parents would truly spearhead activities to make up for all the stuff you'd be missing out on in school. IT was every weekend just about. In bethel we even had softball leagues - a lot of the guys would skip lunch once or twice a week to play. It was almost like intermural college - it was great. But then they clamped down. Now days local needs talks are about beating the flock for more money for the latest compliant wireless mic system.
In the congregations, families just got too busy, the mothers started to work more because the unedcuated fathers incomes were barely able to keep up with inflation. Today - I hear there is nothing going on. No picnics. No swimming parties. Nada. There actually was a nice basketball league going on that was put on by some elders the last couple years. But some other elders started complaining - and you know the rest of the story.
It's funny though, because at a recent circuit assembly the district overseer made an interesting comment. He told the witnesses that he'd been telling all his circuits this: That it's time to get back to the good old days. When we used to associate more socially with one another. When children would go to parties and play sports among themselves. When the organization was truly more family oriented. The audience roared in applause like I'd never heard before at any circuit assembly - even letting out some whoops.
I feel so bad for the kids being raised in the org today. At least I got to have a semblance of a normal childhood. But those days are over and it really is sad. I mean I look at the mormons and the JWs - both have wacked out doctrinal beliefs and I think the mormons beliefs are way beyond credulous in comparison to the WT. But if I had to choose between the two, I'd take the mormon life over the JW one any day. Seriously though, what the hell happened to the JWs in the last decade and a half?? Hell, if they don't want to bring back tackle football - just bring back football - just bring back picnics. For God's sake they should do something to prevent the kids from kiling themselves out of sheer boredom.
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Taking blood automatically disassociates you?
by lostsheep82 ini don't get how you are disassociated if you take blood, if you are unrepentant according to the elders manual on pg 111. now do they have this same elders manual in bulgaria?.
also if you join a nonnuetral organization you dissasociate yourself automatically.
so i wonder if some poor janitor brother with his own business became an ngo with the un if he would have been cast out!
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TD - what about someone, when asked by the elders about blood, says
"I don't mean to be antagonistic, but I just don't share my personal medical decisions with anyone who is not part of my team of doctors. I fully intend to exercise my hippa rights to medical privacy, and if any individual were to attempt to inquire of any medical treatment I may or may not have received, I would be left with no choice but to file suit against such a person. I don't mean to say that in a way that comes accross threatening, it's just that I must do all I can to ensure that my medical privacy rights are respected. However, you can rest assured that I have done absolutely nothing that would violate anything the Bible says about the medical use of blood. But now, I'm going to need to ask you to refrain from inquiring or discussing my private health matters any further. I cannot emphasize enough how serious of a legal matter it is that nothing involving my medical decisions be mentioned or discussed by anyone whatsoever."
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Got "THE letter" ....how to proceed?
by 2pink inmy husband and i faded/mysteriously disappeared from meetings over a year ago.
we've had a few visits from elders (where we said very little but thanked them for their time), the last one being when we had some nice jack o lanterns sitting on our porch.
on saturday, we got letters cordially inviting us to our beheading, i mean, our judicial committee meeting.
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Hmmm - certified mail has to be signed for - so that's interesting. Might check with your post office about it to be sure. But if they have no signature of yours on file that you actually received it - the org rules are pretty clear: it's not sufficient validation that you have actually received their letter.You might even be able to have the letter returned - check via the post.
Does the letter give a definite time and place, or are they wanting you to call them?
Have they had any contact with you whatsoever about the matter of celebrating holidays? i.e. have they called you or spoken with you face-to-face about this before? If the answer to those questions are no, then you can go on ignoring them and they won't be able to df you (if they're following the org's official rules).
Just get ready to do some hard core call screening. I recommend a screening service, like google voice.
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Got "THE letter" ....how to proceed?
by 2pink inmy husband and i faded/mysteriously disappeared from meetings over a year ago.
we've had a few visits from elders (where we said very little but thanked them for their time), the last one being when we had some nice jack o lanterns sitting on our porch.
on saturday, we got letters cordially inviting us to our beheading, i mean, our judicial committee meeting.
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Was the letter certified? Or did you sign for it in any way?
If you didn't sign for the letter and are able to continue to ignore them completely - they can't do anything (according to official WT rules anyway). If you signed for the letter then they can proceed with the JC.